Let Down By Subbie

Posted a job on here last night, pays £1plm for one pallet 500kgs (not a fortune but not bad ) a guy off here messages me and accepts via text, sent him all details for 1030 collection, at 1030 calls him to see how it's going, he says alright mate and then cuts me off! Ringing Him back and he won't answer, then he texts me to say its not worth him doing it as there is not enough in it for him. Thanks for letting me know MATE.

Luckily enough I had a guy doing another job and he can collect later as it is a pm delivery. How do some of these people survive?

No wonder some people don't trust subbies they give us all a bad name.

Yes it's unbelievable really, I'm quite gob smacked.

Outrageous and something that should get the member chucked off the site

If it were me I'd insist on it.

Can they be named and shamed on the site so everyone is aware of who to avoid.

There are some great ODs out there that don't deserve to be tarred with the same brush.

Not rocket science, he posted the job last night and all i can see is one bidder, unless it was sold over the phone.

In my opinion he deserves to be TARRED AND FEATHERED, I just don't understand the mentality, he could at least of lied like saying his van blew up or something but to not even tell me he was not going is unbelievable really.

Certainly don't belong on here or any other exchange site.

Parkway Express Couriers said:

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Can they be named and shamed on the site so everyone is aware of who to avoid.

There are some great ODs out there that don't deserve to be tarred with the same brush.

No, not directly like that on the forum. However LwsExpress can leave feedback about him and you can check the feedback he has left.

We'll be in touch with LwsExpress directly.

Can, I ask this Guy who pay's more than £1.00 a mile for a 500kg pallet, i'm interested I might contact them, he could of done the job, then never contact you again till your offering £2.50

Speed Couriers (Stansted) said:

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Not rocket science, he posted the job last night and all i can see is one bidder, unless it was sold over the phone.

Yes I posted and he sent me a text straight away, after about 4 texts of me asking him questions I then sent him all the collection and invoice details.

Was your load posted on Shed5?

Gas Motorcycle Couriers said:

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Was your load posted on Shed5?

Is this significant?

Gas Motorcycle Couriers said:

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Was your load posted on Shed5?

Why ask that?

I think Gas it trying to identify the member without asking names.

I don't think so :-) If he wants to know then a simple text is suffice as others have done.

That is staggeringly cr*p, un-businesslike and simply inconsiderate behaviour. I would be in favour of naming and shaming if he continues to disappoint in future.

Classic example Les of having to rely on someone you don't know.

No excuses, it's not like your trying to get it done on the cheap!

Been there too Les, that's why we took on another driver and only use [if possible] those on my own list of preferred subbies.

Luckily, it wasn't a morning delivery as things like that happening can well and truly screw up your relationship with your customer! Glad you sorted it.

Hope your out of that M6 tragedy now too?

Thanks Alan I'm home safe and sound unlike 5 or 6 either dead or seriously injured, just looking at his texts now I should have realised when he said, quote, just got your job post from mtvan when does it need moving and what's the size? Then he sys, I can provide you with a regular service at unbeatable prices! Offers me to cover it @ 95pplm and I give him £1plm, kept all his texts so if he denies it to Tim I will just forward his texts. As you say Alan luckily DHLs customer asked for an afternoon delivery.

LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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I don't think so :-) If he wants to know then a simple text is suffice as others have done.

I'd already worked it, and there was 2 that applied and both are newcomers judging by there profile, the reason I ask is if you did post it I didnt receive a tx / email to the post thats all, as a while ago you were on about finding drivers? But it doesnt matter as your sorted now.

So no my question may not have been relavant or significant.

No Mr Gas, as I'm getting my trial on here I thought I would give it a go that's all.

Theres no Trial as a vendor, its just a trial if your bidding les

Ok then my free 3 months.

LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Ok then my free 3 months.

No, there's no free period to post work. You don't have to pay us anything to post work.

Ok ok ok, my pro trial on you then :-)

LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Luckily enough I had a guy doing another job and he can collect later as it is a pm delivery.

And what a guy!!!!

Premier parcels said:

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LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Luckily enough I had a guy doing another job and he can collect later as it is a pm delivery.

And what a guy!!!!

Cheers Geoff, as always top job done by a top guy, I can't believe the number of people who are questioning why I posted the job on here (and not my usual site).

Well Les

LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Premier parcels said:

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LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Luckily enough I had a guy doing another job and he can collect later as it is a pm delivery.

And what a guy!!!!

Cheers Geoff, as always top job done by a top guy, I can't believe the number of people who are questioning why I posted the job on here (and not my usual site).

Because you know where you stand on the other site (its like looking after your family), and like you said geoff is a top guy ;) whom I shall trust as well.

Shall we have a group hug?

All I can say is 'COYS'

Glad you got sorted in the end Les, THIS is what makes vendors think twice about posting work on exchange sites. Hence why we have increased the fleet with 3 xlwb sprinters this year to accommodate our customer requirements. Less work being contracted out, more kept in house, bigger profit margins.

Having said that, the regular guys we use are still utilised.

HSP Couriers said:

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Having said that, the regular guys we use are still utilised.

How do you contact the regular guys? Call or text? Do you ring round many before getting someone to take the job?

HSP Couriers said:

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Glad you got sorted in the end Les, THIS is what makes vendors think twice about posting work on exchange sites. Hence why we have increased the fleet with 3 xlwb sprinters this year to accommodate our customer requirements. Less work being contracted out, more kept in house, bigger profit margins.

Having said that, the regular guys we use are still utilised.

Ironically Mr HSP that's how it used to be but I never thought it would turn a full circle again!

HSP Couriers said:

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Glad you got sorted in the end Les, THIS is what makes vendors think twice about posting work on exchange sites. Hence why we have increased the fleet with 3 xlwb sprinters this year to accommodate our customer requirements. Less work being contracted out, more kept in house, bigger profit margins.

Having said that, the regular guys we use are still utilised.

Cheers big man, hope all is well with you. I will pop in when I'm on my travels sometime.

Website Admin said:

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HSP Couriers said:

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Having said that, the regular guys we use are still utilised.

How do you contact the regular guys? Call or text? Do you ring round many before getting someone to take the job?

Contact the regular guys by text and by calling them, if they are available for the work then give them the job straight away with full details of collection OR just tell them where its collecting from as they know the customer and procedure etc already.

Prices and such are very rarely discussed over the phone with these guys as we know their rates, they know our payment terms and it works well for us all. All we expect is to be kept in the loop in regards to the job, paperwork in with invoice and in return they can expect to be paid quickly / on time. Works well for both parties concerned.

Barnsley Shipping said:

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HSP Couriers said:

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Glad you got sorted in the end Les, THIS is what makes vendors think twice about posting work on exchange sites. Hence why we have increased the fleet with 3 xlwb sprinters this year to accommodate our customer requirements. Less work being contracted out, more kept in house, bigger profit margins.

Having said that, the regular guys we use are still utilised.

Ironically Mr HSP that's how it used to be but I never thought it would turn a full circle again!

Agreed Mr Barnsley, its good know this practice is not dead in the water just yet. Too many around nowdays who will call 5 different subbies to get prices and then allocate based on price.

If everyone took the time to speak to subbies, get to know them, treat them like your own - there would be no need to ring one after the other.

Respect - works both ways

LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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HSP Couriers said:

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Glad you got sorted in the end Les, THIS is what makes vendors think twice about posting work on exchange sites. Hence why we have increased the fleet with 3 xlwb sprinters this year to accommodate our customer requirements. Less work being contracted out, more kept in house, bigger profit margins.

Having said that, the regular guys we use are still utilised.

Cheers big man, hope all is well with you. I will pop in when I'm on my travels sometime.

Les ... Things are always good mate, it's down to how you perceive it right :-)

More than welcome to pop in anytime Les.

HSP Couriers said:

Agreed Mr Barnsley, its good know this practice is not dead in the water just yet. Too many around nowdays who will call 5 different subbies to get prices and then allocate based on price.

If everyone took the time to speak to subbies, get to know them, treat them like your own - there would be no need to ring one after the other.

Respect - works both ways

Yep can relate to that... Apart from ringing around for prices..

LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Posted a job on here last night, pays £1plm for one pallet 500kgs (not a fortune but not bad ) a guy off here messages me and accepts via text, sent him all details for 1030 collection, at 1030 calls him to see how it's going, he says alright mate and then cuts me off! Ringing Him back and he won't answer, then he texts me to say its not worth him doing it as there is not enough in it for him. Thanks for letting me know MATE.

I would have carried it on me back for £1pplm.

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BusinessBuddy said:

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LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Posted a job on here last night, pays £1plm for one pallet 500kgs (not a fortune but not bad ) a guy off here messages me and accepts via text, sent him all details for 1030 collection, at 1030 calls him to see how it's going, he says alright mate and then cuts me off! Ringing Him back and he won't answer, then he texts me to say its not worth him doing it as there is not enough in it for him. Thanks for letting me know MATE.

I would have carried it on me back for £1pplm.

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By the way I had one offer on here for that job for £60, that's 60 pplm.