It must be me

Is it me? Or is it the ods?

Quotes for my latest job posted on here and other sites ranged from 70 pplm to 130 pplm, that includes some ods who quoted 120 and 130 Plm, am I so far out of touch? Or are they just taking the p@@@?

Depends on what vehicle was required, small van 0.65-0.70ppm is the norm £1.20 and above normally for larger vehicles SWB etc, but no your right it's a mine field I got quoted £100 for a 30 mile job which would have fitted on a bicycle a while back!

For an LWB I'd say not far off tbh

I happily pay £1 per mile for a transit so £1.20 for an LWB seems ok to me

Speed Couriers (Stansted) said:

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For an LWB I'd say not far off tbh

I happily pay £1 per mile for a transit so £1.20 for an LWB seems ok to me

You can't find many end users in the northwest that will pay £1.20 or over, many end users are paying only £1 per mile

The end user will pay what it takes to cover the job tho won't he? (Within reason)

Some days it'll be £1, some days £1.20...

I'd say that's within reason

We don't want to be accused of pushing the prices down afterall

I just had a 100 mile job (small van) covered for £80, had another quote for £65 but went with the former cos of timings and just sounded more pro, my choice and could've waited for more around £70 which i'm sure would've come, but twas urgent and how long do you wait before moving on so £80 it is.

Swings and roundabouts innit

Speed Couriers (Stansted) said:

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The end user will pay what it takes to cover the job tho won't he? (Within reason)

Some days it'll be £1, some days £1.20...

I'd say that's within reason

We don't want to be accused of pushing the prices down afterall

I just had a 100 mile job (small van) covered for £80, had another quote for £65 but went with the former cos of timings and just sounded more pro, my choice and could've waited for more around £70 which i'm sure would've come, but twas urgent and how long do you wait before moving on so £80 it is.

Swings and roundabouts innit

Sorry think we have crossed wires here, if anybody is paying there subbies £1.20 - £1.30 Plm then they can call me all day long and I will take on all the work they can give me. What I am trying to get across to you is small engineering and small production companies are only paying £1 to £1.20 plm to get there jobs covered, so if I'm getting say £1.10 Plm from my customer then there is no way on this earth I'm going to be giving a subbie £1.30 Plm,,,,,,,,, am I?

The job you posted was for an LWB or perhaps you were referring to a different job on a differnet site, So me suggesting £1.20 for an LWB not being unreasonable is appropriate i think

If you're talikng about a small van then yes, very high

We've gone over this many times and contrary to what some think there is a North South divide on prices. Down South the cost of living is so much higher. Try buying a 3 bedroom terrace in London for under £100,000. The cost of derv at the mo is £1.42.9 per ltr. What is it inside the M25? Insurances are dearer. It make sense that costs are higher. Just try quoting an end user price to make a profit on a subbie price of £1.20 for a Lwb up here and you would not get the work. I can sub out all day at £1pplm but doubt if I would get that from South to North.

Oh contrare... £1 for transit/LWB is the price i get quoted and we're deffo in the sarf

There may well be a North/South Divide on most things, but rates don't seem to be part of it (London aside)

Speed Couriers (Stansted) said:

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Oh contrare... £1 for transit/LWB is the price i get quoted and we're deffo in the sarf

There may well be a North/South Divide on most things, but rates don't seem to be part of it (London aside)

I'm in Essex and would happily work all day long for £1plm but finding work at the minute is tough to say the least

Small van in the north. 50-60pplm pid by most main courier companies.. 50pplm royal mail.

TLC Couriers said:

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Small van in the north. 50-60pplm pid by most main courier companies.. 50pplm royal mail.

I don't differentiate, if I need a van small or large I pay £1 per mile.

Ring me anytime

I often quote £1 plm for small van jobs in the Norwich / Yarmouth area, sometimes £1.10 for larger loads. I know it's pricey but I drive a Transit and, living in a rural area, I usually have quite a few dead miles to collection, so that's the price I need to make a fair profit - and I don't wont to contribute to pushing prices down. I really don't mind if I'm turned down, and usually I am, but every now and then I'm accepted because they haven't had a better offer.

I reckon these people giving high quotes are trying to cover their dead mileage. If they're anything like me, they'll expect to be turned down unless the customer is desperate and they haven't had a better offer... in which case, fair enough!

So please don't be exasperated at us! ...unless you get really stupid quotes. I'd say £1.30 is the upper limit before I'd start to get p****d off.

LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Is it me? Or is it the ods?

Quotes for my latest job posted on here and other sites ranged from 70 pplm to 130 pplm, that includes some ods who quoted 120 and 130 Plm, am I so far out of touch? Or are they just taking the p@@@?

Do you not think those guys pitching £1.20/mile are expecting you to come back with something a bit less?

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I often quote £1 plm for small van jobs in the Norwich / Yarmouth area, sometimes £1.10 for larger loads. I know it's pricey but I drive a Transit and, living in a rural area, I usually have quite a few dead miles to collection, so that's the price I need to make a fair profit - and I don't wont to contribute to pushing prices down. I really don't mind if I'm turned down, and usually I am, but every now and then I'm accepted because they haven't had a better offer.

I reckon these people giving high quotes are trying to cover their dead mileage. If they're anything like me, they'll expect to be turned down unless the customer is desperate and they haven't had a better offer... in which case, fair enough!

So please don't be exasperated at us! ...unless you get really stupid quotes. I'd say £1.30 is the upper limit before I'd start to get p****d off.

Seriously though what do these people think I am getting per mile off my customers?

TLC I don't think anyone's referring to the big boys as we all know they take the p*** irrespective of what part of the country it is.

We are talking more the rates us "normal" courier co's expect to pay out and, whether you differenciate between a small van or not, OD's certainly do.

A small van rate will be anywhere between 65-90p and a Transit or LWB anywhere between 80p and £1.20

Anyone who can't handle those rates clearly isn't confident of charging their customers a proper rate in the 1st place

:-) fishing again :-)

Not at all... Just stating the bleedin obvious but some just can't see

Ten years ago, I could ask a £1 a mile, today I can get/ask £1 a mile fuel has gone up about 80%, anybody who thinks £1.20/1.30 a mile is too much is on another planet, it's a fair price everything has doubled in price in the last ten years apart from our prices WHY, because we are soft.

The above comment is not about subbie rates.

Speed Couriers (Stansted) said:

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Not at all... Just stating the bleedin obvious but some just can't see

I can assure you I charge my customers a proper rate, and I know what the going rates are for vans, but I choose to pay £1 Plm for any van small or large (that's my prerogative) I don't accept stupid bids ie 60pplm or 80 pplm because I pay £1 Plm, please forward to me the names of the companies who pay £1.20 Plm in the northwest and I will supply them with 2 vans 7 days a week, and by the way I have never failed to get a job covered in the last 6 years, so I can't see the bleeding obvious you are stating. If you ever have any work coming north @ £1.20 Plm I will come and collect it for you anytime night or day just give us a bell.

Its your perogative to pay £1 for a small van but moan about £1.20 for a large one... Lol... You are funny Les

I think you are missing the point completely, up here in working class northwest of England many subbies work for 80-90 pplm Many more work for £1 Plm I personally do not know of one courier up north who pays his subbies £1.20-£1.30 Plm if the said courier exists please please contact me anytime.

When DHL ask me for vans they don't ask for a small or large van they just ask for a van so you see one pallet going to London is say £280 (200 miles ) as is 4 pallets going to London £280, yes I know I could go back on Courier Exchange and get small van work covered for 60 pplm and large van work covered for 70 pplm but I do what I do and it's not about what I pay ,as I said never fail to get jobs covered (best week 33 vans DHL) it's not about my rates or what van rates you or others charge. It's all about who the f@@@ are these mystical people who pay up to £1.30 Plm to there subbies?

Now who's fishing

I'm from the north West, and I work so what am I?

The rates down here are the same as everywhere else (with the exception of London)

There is clearly a difference between the size of the van and the mileage rate someone expects.

The fact you don't differenciate is up to you but as i've already stated, and as you yourself have seen there ARE those that quote £1.20 a mile... You said so yourself in your opening sentence

And if you're paying £1 for a small van AND a large van how can you have such an issue with anyone quoting £1.20, unless of course it was a small van quoting?

If you only charge £1.40 for a big un I can see why you don't like £1.20 from a subbie

I'm not talking about the major couriers, local couriers are only paying 50-60pplm. Even that's to dear for cx

Well whenever i have work in Leeds, Manchester or anywhere else for that matter, I have not seen any quotes at those kinda rates and we put a lot on all over the UK so that's strange isn't it

TLC Couriers said:

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I'm not talking about the major couriers, local couriers are only paying 50-60pplm. Even that's to dear for cx

What MUG would even think about working for that amount?

We have those complaining about rates being too low, then we have those complaining about quotes being too high

Why don't we just accept that we all want/need different rates, there will always be those that quote high, and there will always be those that want low

Shall we add into the mix all those that ask what they should be charging and muddy the waters even more?

If everyone quotes higher than you want to pay then you know you're not charging enough, equally if you continue to fail to get your quote accepted you know you're quoting too high

Nuff said

Speed Couriers (Stansted) said:

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If you only charge £1.40 for a big un I can see why you don't like £1.20 from a subbie

Thank you some common sense at last.

But that was only an example ; - ) (London) Basically I don't believe there is anyone in the Manchester area who pays his subbies £1.30 Plm if anyone is paying that or getting that, texts only to 07868849836.

I was charging 80p for a SWB Transit but that seemed too high for some people. Happy to sit on my arse till work picks up. Put a ferry charge on to that and communication ends.

Well if 80p is too high for an SWB then they're not worth working for

Speed Couriers (Stansted) said:

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Well if 80p is too high for an SWB then they're not worth working for

You aint been to Halifax

Not for a while I haven't no

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LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Is it me? Or is it the ods?

Quotes for my latest job posted on here and other sites ranged from 70 pplm to 130 pplm, that includes some ods who quoted 120 and 130 Plm, am I so far out of touch? Or are they just taking the p@@@?

Do you not think those guys pitching £1.20/mile are expecting you to come back with something a bit less?

You missed my post. What do you say when a courier quotes £1.20/mile?

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LwsExpress transport solutions said:

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Is it me? Or is it the ods?

Quotes for my latest job posted on here and other sites ranged from 70 pplm to 130 pplm, that includes some ods who quoted 120 and 130 Plm, am I so far out of touch? Or are they just taking the p@@@?

Do you not think those guys pitching £1.20/mile are expecting you to come back with something a bit less?

You missed my post. What do you say when a courier quotes £1.20/mile?

The job usually goes for £1 per mile so I just tell them its gone or I will reply with, sorry that's a bit rich for me.

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TLC Couriers said:

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I'm not talking about the major couriers, local couriers are only paying 50-60pplm. Even that's to dear for cx

What MUG would even think about working for that amount?

Gary a mate of mine with a small van was working 6 days a week flat out for a big hitter on Courier Exchange 60 pplm for about 12 months non stop, he told him one day he needed 65 Plm and the big hitter dropped him like a stone and he has not had a call for months.

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Is it me? Or is it the ods?

Quotes for my latest job posted on here and other sites ranged from 70 pplm to 130 pplm, that includes some ods who quoted 120 and 130 Plm, am I so far out of touch? Or are they just taking the p@@@?

Do you not think those guys pitching £1.20/mile are expecting you to come back with something a bit less?

You missed my post. What do you say when a courier quotes £1.20/mile?

The job usually goes for £1 per mile so I just tell them its gone or I will reply with, sorry that's a bit rich for me.

As the job normally goes for £1/mile, why not tell them that you expect to be able to cover it for that so that's the most you're prepared to pay? Many would probably accept your counter offer, job would be covered, and they'd know how much you expect for next time.

It's not about me getting work covered as I never fail, I would just like to know who in the Manchester area subs out work at £1.30 Plm.

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TLC Couriers said:

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I'm not talking about the major couriers, local couriers are only paying 50-60pplm. Even that's to dear for cx

What MUG would even think about working for that amount?

Gary a mate of mine with a small van was working 6 days a week flat out for a big hitter on Courier Exchange 60 pplm for about 12 months non stop, he told him one day he needed 65 Plm and the big hitter dropped him like a stone and he has not had a call for months.

Sometimes people have no choice, I have always steered away from the Courier Exchange. I can imagine there are some people on there who only look after themselves

interesting ... Yet entertaining read