Gentle reminder for euro drivers

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Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

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Original Poster

Just thought i would give a gentle reminder to all those drivers who trade in Europe, from today 15/11/13 it is a legal requirement in most European country's to have your vehicle prepared for winter, to include :

winter tyres (snow chains for vehicles 7.5 tonne and above ) , screen washer full , spare bulbs , first aid kit, warning triangles x2, alco testers x2, hi vizz vest or coat fire extinguisher 5kg type, spare wheel and tyre, flash light,

The above is a legal requirement and the fines are big if found without them, if you haven't the correct tyres the police will make you go to a Tyre shop and have them put on and can cost upwards of £800.00 to have this done ,

cheapest i have found so far for winter tyres in the uk is TYRE TRADERS LTD DARLASTON WESTMIDLANDS

and just as a guide
my personal kit contains : spare warm clothing spare coat wash kit water x 10 ltrs stove and gas pot,kettle enough food for 5 days (cans and packet) and pre packed drinks cups tea coffee etc

hope this is informative : p.s Hollands pies freeze well

TERRY

A25 Couriers

2477

Actually this is a very timely posting so thanks very much Terry. I am due to drive to Lauterbrunen in Switzerland in my SWB Vivaro with some personal goods and a passenger... Any advice on cheapest way to cross The Channel? Once again, thanks for the posting.

Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

463
Original Poster

I use DFDS for most crossings this works for me some good rates if you book through freight link or any other agent they also have good rates for ad hoc if you book direct and buy a 5 day non peak return as I have seen our eastern Europe drivers do on occasion, t

Hope this helps Terry

A25 Couriers

2477

Cheers for that Terry. I did think that DFDS would be cheaper. The tunnel is okay but I think that it works out at about nearly £80.00 more for my van than the ferry... 5 day non peak return sounds a good idea as well... Many thanks for the info and advice.

Gavin

Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

463
Original Poster

Also I would suggest that you check that all the paper work for the goods are in order for the trip , Customs docs etc. and most importantly a manifest of all the items on the van as this could hold you up at customs until it is all correct. Don't forget the original documents for the van as copies are not permitted when stopped by the Swiss police, and lastly your vignette at the border you will have to buy a 12 month one which will run out on the 31/12/13 so you are paying over the odds unfortunately.

A25 Couriers

2477

Once more thanks for the good, sound advice Terry. Will have to do quite a bit of planning methinks.

Gavin.

Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

463
Original Poster

Fail to plan is a plan to fail Good luck with it **

AJM sameday Couriers

3440

The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

GD EXPRESS

1152

And vehicles without GB on the back.

Mid Wales Freight

70

I find that a ferry crossing is better than the tunnel because it is an enforced driving break of a decent period and sets you up nicely for the next leg - only use the tunnel on an urgent job where time is of the essence - down time is important.

The best company I have dealt with for ferry crossings is 'My Freight'. Get an open ticket so you don't have to hurry for a particular ferry ( no worries with delays and speed cameras or police ) Book to go DFDS as this is a lot cheaper than P & O ( the service is a lot better than it used to be) and for the last few months the meals have been free ( they won't say when this offer ends - it was supposed to be the end of Oct but I have been over 2 or 3 times this month and it is still going ) with the usual amounts of free expresso to keep you going at the other side. When you book your ticket tell them that there are 2 drivers and your customer will have a free meal too.

I have used most of the ferry bookers and 'My Freight' prices are very competitive they will text you the confirmation number promptly so you are not hanging about waiting. As a rule I never book tickets before I have got the load on board just to be sure that the job is happening but this has given me problems with bookings not being made in time for crossing with other companies.

Winter tyres- Essential over there but I would say essential over here. Everyone needs tyres on their van so they might as well put winter tyres on - miss a couple of days work and it has already cost you the price of the tyres. Pay your excess and you really are out of pocket.

I have used mytyres. co.uk for the last few years. The tyres come from Germany the price is a delivered vat inc price and it usually takes less than a week for them to arrive. Bridgestone Blizzak is my tyre of choice my order for 4 cost me £ 385.20 ( inc VAT and p&p) These work well and last well on my sprinter. Put them on as soon as we have more than a few consecutive nights of frost then run them all winter until they are down to the min by that time daffodils are out and old rims go back on. New winter tyres every winter - replace the others as needed.

Make sure that you have enough gas for your stove as the longer thinner bottles that fit in your 'normal over here stove' aren't so widely available over there ( especially in Scandinavia ) and you may end up having to buy a new stove to suit their fuel.

As previously mentioned make sure you are bulletproof on your paperwork Vehicle docs and manifest. Make sure that you have your customer sign the manifest to say that alll the goods are his, he knows that the usual things are illegal and that he takes full responsibility for the loads contents.

If you are lucky enough to get a return load the same applies don't be greedy and assume that it is pure profit. If you haven't had the customer sign a disclaimer the illegal goods are yours as far as customs are concerned. If in any doubt about ANY load coming back in to the Uk inform customs BEFORE you enter the UK on the phone get the person you speak to's name and ask for a reference number for the call and then you will get stopped but you will be in the clear and they will be after the sender not you ( happened to me last week gut feeling proved to be right )

Money is cheapest out of a cash dispenser as you are only getting out what you need and exotic currencies like Francs, Kroner, Lira etc always disapear before you get a chance to use them A decent amount of euros is not a bad idea as a lot of places not in the euro will take them if need be.

En Route Belgium and Luxemburg are probably the best prices for your fuel ( lux being the cheapest by far. If you haven't got a European fuel card use you credit card rather than cash - you will get a better rate and if you get a naughty person in the fuel station they aren't emptying your bank account and you can get a refund from your credit card company.

Bon Route

Nick

GD EXPRESS

1152

Meals were still free this week on DFDS.

SMH

1863

Hollands pies freeze well

Meat / meat and potato / and a must have steak puddings :-)

SMH

1863

AJM sameday Couriers said:


The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

Why nobody gives a sh*t about having them in this country when they come over here

A25 Couriers

2477

Many thanks for everybody's posting... Especially Nick from Mid Wales Freight. Will help a lot, so I shall go and do a bit of planning... If I remember I shall try and post on my return and let you all know how it went. Thanks again.

Gavin

LwsExpress transport solutions

1161

Mid Wales Freight said:


I find that a ferry crossing is better than the tunnel because it is an enforced driving break of a decent period and sets you up nicely for the next leg - only use the tunnel on an urgent job where time is of the essence - down time is important.

The best company I have dealt with for ferry crossings is 'My Freight'. Get an open ticket so you don't have to hurry for a particular ferry ( no worries with delays and speed cameras or police ) Book to go DFDS as this is a lot cheaper than P & O ( the service is a lot better than it used to be) and for the last few months the meals have been free ( they won't say when this offer ends - it was supposed to be the end of Oct but I have been over 2 or 3 times this month and it is still going ) with the usual amounts of free expresso to keep you going at the other side. When you book your ticket tell them that there are 2 drivers and your customer will have a free meal too.

I have used most of the ferry bookers and 'My Freight' prices are very competitive they will text you the confirmation number promptly so you are not hanging about waiting. As a rule I never book tickets before I have got the load on board just to be sure that the job is happening but this has given me problems with bookings not being made in time for crossing with other companies.

Winter tyres- Essential over there but I would say essential over here. Everyone needs tyres on their van so they might as well put winter tyres on - miss a couple of days work and it has already cost you the price of the tyres. Pay your excess and you really are out of pocket.

I have used mytyres. co.uk for the last few years. The tyres come from Germany the price is a delivered vat inc price and it usually takes less than a week for them to arrive. Bridgestone Blizzak is my tyre of choice my order for 4 cost me £ 385.20 ( inc VAT and p&p) These work well and last well on my sprinter. Put them on as soon as we have more than a few consecutive nights of frost then run them all winter until they are down to the min by that time daffodils are out and old rims go back on. New winter tyres every winter - replace the others as needed.

Make sure that you have enough gas for your stove as the longer thinner bottles that fit in your 'normal over here stove' aren't so widely available over there ( especially in Scandinavia ) and you may end up having to buy a new stove to suit their fuel.

As previously mentioned make sure you are bulletproof on your paperwork Vehicle docs and manifest. Make sure that you have your customer sign the manifest to say that alll the goods are his, he knows that the usual things are illegal and that he takes full responsibility for the loads contents.

If you are lucky enough to get a return load the same applies don't be greedy and assume that it is pure profit. If you haven't had the customer sign a disclaimer the illegal goods are yours as far as customs are concerned. If in any doubt about ANY load coming back in to the Uk inform customs BEFORE you enter the UK on the phone get the person you speak to's name and ask for a reference number for the call and then you will get stopped but you will be in the clear and they will be after the sender not you ( happened to me last week gut feeling proved to be right )

Money is cheapest out of a cash dispenser as you are only getting out what you need and exotic currencies like Francs, Kroner, Lira etc always disapear before you get a chance to use them A decent amount of euros is not a bad idea as a lot of places not in the euro will take them if need be.

En Route Belgium and Luxemburg are probably the best prices for your fuel ( lux being the cheapest by far. If you haven't got a European fuel card use you credit card rather than cash - you will get a better rate and if you get a naughty person in the fuel station they aren't emptying your bank account and you can get a refund from your credit card company.

Bon Route

Nick

Top post, well done mate, makes a change from the usual drivel posted on here.

AJM sameday Couriers

3440

SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

Why nobody gives a sh*t about having them in this country when they come over here

Well that must means all of your 74 vehicles are not fitted with them, you have a very bad attitude to life.

SMH

1863

AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

Why nobody gives a sh*t about having them in this country when they come over here

Well that must means all of your 74 vehicles are not fitted with them, you have a very bad attitude to life.

None of mine have them fitted mate, simple i sub ALL my euro work out as they go out at what it would cost me to send one of mine

Happy days

Ps FACTS WRONG ONCE AGAIN

SMH

1863

AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

Why nobody gives a sh*t about having them in this country when they come over here

Well that must means all of your 74 vehicles are not fitted with them, you have a very bad attitude to life.

Sames a person that doesnt even have his insurance doc listed

AJM sameday Couriers

3440

SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

Why nobody gives a sh*t about having them in this country when they come over here

Well that must means all of your 74 vehicles are not fitted with them, you have a very bad attitude to life.

None of mine have them fitted mate, simple i sub ALL my euro work out as they go out at what it would cost me to send one of mine

Happy days

Ps FACTS WRONG ONCE AGAIN

I don't like you, you think your a big man, your a prick and i'm not afraid to say so, in all the years I have heard your shite im forums you have never agreed or been nice to one person, your always protective and abusive, I supose that what you get by been under the thumb.

If anybody who I do a job for wants to see my insurance, then I will show it to them, you paying peanuts will never see it, so has I said I dont like you and never will your so f*cking false and full of bullshit, there isn;t just me thinks so I know lot's of other people who can't stand you & guess what they have never met you, it's the bullshit you talk.

Can I just apologise to all the sensible, responsible, and proffesional people who commnted on this post, if I get banned sin binned or whatever for this then I least I will be satisfied with getting that off my chest.

BCN EXPRESS ESSEX

320

Didnt realise winter tyres were law, we got stopped in Italy last week, they checked all our paperwork & had a good look round the van never mentioned winter tyres, mines fitted with Conti vancos, my mrs was chatting to them, she speaks italian (clever cow lol)!

LwsExpress transport solutions

1161

BCN EXPRESS ESSEX said:


Didnt realise winter tyres were law, we got stopped in Italy last week, they checked all our paperwork & had a good look round the van never mentioned winter tyres, mines fitted with Conti vancos, my mrs was chatting to them, she speaks italian (clever cow lol)!

I don't think it is the law in Italy, but I'm sure someone will tell me if I'm wrong.

LwsExpress transport solutions

1161

AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

Why nobody gives a sh*t about having them in this country when they come over here

Well that must means all of your 74 vehicles are not fitted with them, you have a very bad attitude to life.

None of mine have them fitted mate, simple i sub ALL my euro work out as they go out at what it would cost me to send one of mine

Happy days

Ps FACTS WRONG ONCE AGAIN

I don't like you, you think your a big man, your a prick and i'm not afraid to say so, in all the years I have heard your shite im forums you have never agreed or been nice to one person, your always protective and abusive, I supose that what you get by been under the thumb.

If anybody who I do a job for wants to see my insurance, then I will show it to them, you paying peanuts will never see it, so has I said I dont like you and never will your so f*cking false and full of bullshit, there isn;t just me thinks so I know lot's of other people who can't stand you & guess what they have never met you, it's the bullshit you talk.

Can I just apologise to all the sensible, responsible, and proffesional people who commnted on this post, if I get banned sin binned or whatever for this then I least I will be satisfied with getting that off my chest.

Oops, don't mince your words Gary just get it off your chest and I didn't know you knew Michelle :-) Sorry Simon couldn't resist :-)

SMH

1863

AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

Why nobody gives a sh*t about having them in this country when they come over here

Well that must means all of your 74 vehicles are not fitted with them, you have a very bad attitude to life.

None of mine have them fitted mate, simple i sub ALL my euro work out as they go out at what it would cost me to send one of mine

Happy days

Ps FACTS WRONG ONCE AGAIN

I don't like you, you think your a big man, your a prick and i'm not afraid to say so, in all the years I have heard your shite im forums you have never agreed or been nice to one person, your always protective and abusive, I supose that what you get by been under the thumb.

If anybody who I do a job for wants to see my insurance, then I will show it to them, you paying peanuts will never see it, so has I said I dont like you and never will your so f*cking false and full of bullshit, there isn;t just me thinks so I know lot's of other people who can't stand you & guess what they have never met you, it's the bullshit you talk.

Can I just apologise to all the sensible, responsible, and proffesional people who commnted on this post, if I get banned sin binned or whatever for this then I least I will be satisfied with getting that off my chest.

Pmsl, your talking to me like i give a sh*t, im not bothered who likes me and who doesnt like me im not in a popularity contest, im in business.

Even les will tell you i never kiss anyones arse

Its not me who started the my house is bigger then my house you muppet lol

If you think everything is BS your more than welcome to come round and have a look, il even make you a coffee and i promise ill not piss in it :-)

Can I just apologise to all the sensible, responsible, and proffesional people who commnted on this post

i do hope your not counting yourself with that lot

SMH

1863

LwsExpress transport solutions said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


SMH said:


AJM sameday Couriers said:


The police should fine all the plonkers without beam deflectors they think they are above the law.

Why nobody gives a sh*t about having them in this country when they come over here

Well that must means all of your 74 vehicles are not fitted with them, you have a very bad attitude to life.

None of mine have them fitted mate, simple i sub ALL my euro work out as they go out at what it would cost me to send one of mine

Happy days

Ps FACTS WRONG ONCE AGAIN

I don't like you, you think your a big man, your a prick and i'm not afraid to say so, in all the years I have heard your shite im forums you have never agreed or been nice to one person, your always protective and abusive, I supose that what you get by been under the thumb.

If anybody who I do a job for wants to see my insurance, then I will show it to them, you paying peanuts will never see it, so has I said I dont like you and never will your so f*cking false and full of bullshit, there isn;t just me thinks so I know lot's of other people who can't stand you & guess what they have never met you, it's the bullshit you talk.

Can I just apologise to all the sensible, responsible, and proffesional people who commnted on this post, if I get banned sin binned or whatever for this then I least I will be satisfied with getting that off my chest.

Oops, don't mince your words Gary just get it off your chest and I didn't know you knew Michelle :-) Sorry Simon couldn't resist :-)

Ill not disagree les, michelle looks after the books, because if i did it when i get a cheque for £20k id f*ck off on holiday :-) or get a new van spend spend spend then worry about the rest later lol

Im very good at getting customers and very good at buying a selling, but im sh*t with money

SMH

1863

you paying peanuts will never see it

I dont pay peanuts i pay what they want for doing the job, ask paul off here hes going to campbeltown for me later today, 95% i always ask for the price 1st

You can give me a price to riga goes once a month :-) 1 pallet 390kgs

SMH

1863

Italy

Winter tyres are not compulsory in Italy. However, if local signs indicate that snow chains should be carried in the vehicle, you are required to do so. One region which differs is the Val d'Aosta area (in the north-west of the country). From the 15th of October to the 15th of April vehicles must be either fitted with winter tyres or snow chains.

Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

463
Original Poster

Mid Wales Freight said:


I find that a ferry crossing is better than the tunnel because it is an enforced driving break of a decent period and sets you up nicely for the next leg - only use the tunnel on an urgent job where time is of the essence - down time is important.

The best company I have dealt with for ferry crossings is 'My Freight'. Get an open ticket so you don't have to hurry for a particular ferry ( no worries with delays and speed cameras or police ) Book to go DFDS as this is a lot cheaper than P & O ( the service is a lot better than it used to be) and for the last few months the meals have been free ( they won't say when this offer ends - it was supposed to be the end of Oct but I have been over 2 or 3 times this month and it is still going ) with the usual amounts of free expresso to keep you going at the other side. When you book your ticket tell them that there are 2 drivers and your customer will have a free meal too.

I have used most of the ferry bookers and 'My Freight' prices are very competitive they will text you the confirmation number promptly so you are not hanging about waiting. As a rule I never book tickets before I have got the load on board just to be sure that the job is happening but this has given me problems with bookings not being made in time for crossing with other companies.

Winter tyres- Essential over there but I would say essential over here. Everyone needs tyres on their van so they might as well put winter tyres on - miss a couple of days work and it has already cost you the price of the tyres. Pay your excess and you really are out of pocket.

I have used mytyres. co.uk for the last few years. The tyres come from Germany the price is a delivered vat inc price and it usually takes less than a week for them to arrive. Bridgestone Blizzak is my tyre of choice my order for 4 cost me £ 385.20 ( inc VAT and p&p) These work well and last well on my sprinter. Put them on as soon as we have more than a few consecutive nights of frost then run them all winter until they are down to the min by that time daffodils are out and old rims go back on. New winter tyres every winter - replace the others as needed.

Make sure that you have enough gas for your stove as the longer thinner bottles that fit in your 'normal over here stove' aren't so widely available over there ( especially in Scandinavia ) and you may end up having to buy a new stove to suit their fuel.

As previously mentioned make sure you are bulletproof on your paperwork Vehicle docs and manifest. Make sure that you have your customer sign the manifest to say that alll the goods are his, he knows that the usual things are illegal and that he takes full responsibility for the loads contents.

If you are lucky enough to get a return load the same applies don't be greedy and assume that it is pure profit. If you haven't had the customer sign a disclaimer the illegal goods are yours as far as customs are concerned. If in any doubt about ANY load coming back in to the Uk inform customs BEFORE you enter the UK on the phone get the person you speak to's name and ask for a reference number for the call and then you will get stopped but you will be in the clear and they will be after the sender not you ( happened to me last week gut feeling proved to be right )

Money is cheapest out of a cash dispenser as you are only getting out what you need and exotic currencies like Francs, Kroner, Lira etc always disapear before you get a chance to use them A decent amount of euros is not a bad idea as a lot of places not in the euro will take them if need be.

En Route Belgium and Luxemburg are probably the best prices for your fuel ( lux being the cheapest by far. If you haven't got a European fuel card use you credit card rather than cash - you will get a better rate and if you get a naughty person in the fuel station they aren't emptying your bank account and you can get a refund from your credit card company.

Bon Route

Nick

SMH said:


Italy

Winter tyres are not compulsory in Italy. However, if local signs indicate that snow chains should be carried in the vehicle, you are required to do so. One region which differs is the Val d'Aosta area (in the north-west of the country). From the 15th of October to the 15th of April vehicles must be either fitted with winter tyres or snow chains.

From Bolzano to fern pass Austria snow tyres are compulsory, Snow chains on all vehicles 7.5 tonne and above are compulsory on all mountain routes from 15 October to 15 As it was snowing on Friday last week as i went over it would be a good suggestion to have them on if you run the non toll route, mid wales great informative post

Marc Spedition

57

A25 Couriers said: .. Any advice on cheapest way to cross The Channel?

I've got at the moment good rates for 7 -12 meters vehicles for ro-ro ferry crossing in europe.

BCN EXPRESS ESSEX

320

What rate can you get for a Transit under 6 metres?

Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

463
Original Poster

BCN EXPRESS ESSEX said:


What rate can you get for a Transit under 6 metres?

Go direct to dfds and their rates are competitive

Marc Spedition

57

BCN EXPRESS ESSEX said:


What rate can you get for a Transit under 6 metres?

Prices starts from --£76 + VAT (baf included) - much cheaper than direct from ferry operators (freight tickets valid for 10 days - any changes in bookings free of charge)

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

Make sure you have correct paperwork if trying to enter Switzerland.

One can spend hours at border if everything is not in order.

Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

463
Original Poster

Marc Spedition said:


BCN EXPRESS ESSEX said:


What rate can you get for a Transit under 6 metres?

Prices starts from --£76 + VAT (baf included) - much cheaper than direct from ferry operators (freight tickets valid for 10 days - any changes in bookings free of charge)

£70 DFDS DIRECT

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

Glad we have account with tunnel. £85 each way plus VAT

Quicker, [in most cases] and only 30 mins having to mix with the 'sandal' brigade.

If by boat, I would much sooner pay more, and go P&O to cross the channel

I must admit I detest those Dover - Dunkerque boats, once it took about 40 mins to get off after it docked, being parked at the back of the open deck.

Usually use train, but depending on destination sometimes go Hull to Rotterdam. Nice cabin, overnight and wake refreshed for drive North Germany / Scandinavia etc.

BCN EXPRESS ESSEX

320

Got your message Marc, hope to be in touch

Marc Spedition

57

"£70 DFDS DIRECT"

"Glad we have account with tunnel. £85 each way plus VAT"

Try to get this price directly from them (as a freight) when you go to europe once or twice per month. :-)

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

Marc Spedition said:


"£70 DFDS DIRECT"

"Glad we have account with tunnel. £85 each way plus VAT"

Try to get this price directly from them (as a freight) when you go to europe once or twice per month. :-)

I never said you could! I stated on 'our account' and for that price one has to guarantee completing a certain amount of crossings per month!

Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

463
Original Poster

Marc Spedition said:


"£70 DFDS DIRECT"

"Glad we have account with tunnel. £85 each way plus VAT"

Try to get this price directly from them (as a freight) when you go to europe once or twice per month. :-)

As a freight customer this is my rate and anyone can negotiate their own price, after all everyone has the freedom of offer to treat that is consumer law, £50 tunnel and £85 on p and o all prices are plus vat P. S 9 to 10 trips per month and above ;)

Rapid Movements Europe Ltd

463
Original Poster

Any how the thread was about the need of snow preparation for vehicles that trade in Europe not a ferry crossing sales pitch

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